Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction 3,207 views Jul 31, 2019 78 Dislike Share Save New Hampshire Fish and Wildlife 634 subscribers During my thirty-one career at the New. The most common areas to see mountain lions in Arizona are in places of rocky and mountainous terrain. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. So give us a call now. Do they travel. In my New Hampshire career I have written several, and seen at least 20, stories along the lines of "local person thinks they saw a mountain lion but there's no actual evidence aside from.
Alleged mountain lion sightings put Derry, Windham residents on edge So yeah as far as wildlife species that put deer and trees know there aren't any others that I know of that put deer in trees just just humans might be responsible for that. No I saw a camel. I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. So I reached down to grab the camera and looked back and like a ghost it's gone. Caller: Oh yeah. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. We'd love to have you in the queue. Some are included in lists of mountains, such as the Appalachian Mountain Club (AMC) list of the Hundred Highest peaks of New England, or the . About two years ago I was at the Laconia airport on the way home from the airport and there's a big lake on one side called Lily Pond. Copyright New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.An official New Hampshire government website. DNA from scat or from fur, a clear track that is confirmed by an expert, or a photo that clearly shows a mountain lion. For instance, Floridas wildlife officials have a similar ghost cat: the black panther. So do they. But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. Sam Evans-Brown: And when we talk about subspecies this actually leads to to an interesting tangent which is that the field of biology recently has been sort of revolutionized by the use of DNA to determine what subspecies are. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. So so. Thanks for calling. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. Right. So we tossed these terms around but really the term subspecies has been sort of redefined in our lifetimes. There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming.
Squam Lake: Home of mountain lions - Concord Monitor Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything.
Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? - WMUR This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. Okay. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. Have it reported down in the Keene area. The supervisor that hired me in the game division in October of 1978 passed on to me this whole big folder of mountain lion information and sightings going back probably a couple decades. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. Sam Evans-Brown: I just want to say the bang and word you just heard I think to me exemplifies why it's really hard to come up with with positive you know 100 percent certain evidence that you've that what you've got is a mountain lions. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. And the cougar embodies that. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. Mountain lion or cat running across. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. I think as Pat was saying you know 35 to 50 pounds on a male be reasonable range whereas mountain lions you're up to 100 110 maybe even 130 pounds on a big male. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. Caller: Yeah. The Eastern mountain lion is extinct in the eastern United States and Canada, but in 2011, a . We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. They lived perhaps elsewhere in New England and they were just passing through and happened to have an encounter of some sort. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. They don't know the direction they're going. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. Your support makes this news available to everyone. I have one that's more elaborate than that. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. Wed love to be part of the first verified sighting. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not.
Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. 19 Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. New Hampshire Public Radio | I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. That's next time on one day. Patrick Tate: Well. Phone number 1 800. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. And now that everyone and their mother has a remote camera in their back yard its just so, so unlikely that there are resident, breeding mountain lions in New England that are living invisibly among us, he says, Its become Big Foot..
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. So it's there was no question in my mind. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Peter Biello: Nice to be here. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. Sam. Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. They kill big animals. Peter Biello: Let's go to Mike in Epping. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. The best documentation we have in New Hampshire suggests there hasnt been a mountain lion killed by a hunter in this state since 1885. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. By Eric Orff. You know I'm like seriously I can't get a picture of the thing but what it what it is. Mountain Lions in NH. So they're scary. And it's not really strong. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. And we want to know your stories if you have them 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 or email exchange at an HP bar dot org we'll talk about conspiracy theories when we come back. They just end up in these places. Chartered 1973; Member of District 44-H; . You saw what you saw. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. Tate said that while a mountain lion sighting in New Hampshire isn't likely, it's not impossible. I saw that had this giant the bobcat had this giant sweeping which is John Bobcat don't have big sweeping tails.
While State Denies Mtn Lions are in NH, Numerous Sightings Say Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HP yard today we're talking about the mysterious elusive majestic Mystic Mountain Lion. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. We had six copies printed out each. Sam Evans-Brown: So I just had two thoughts which is that we hear a lot of these stories and all of us here have heard these stories. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. Just. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam..
Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. We want answers. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Something along those lines. So Michael follows with the question. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Sam Evans Brown. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. He said matter of fact I do. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. And you know all that. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. David Erler says some of them probably have. And so maybe before I go to you recommend I ask you Patrick Tate is the standard too high. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. To date, the Department has not received any verifiable evidence (photographic or DNA)of mountain lions existing in New Hampshire. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. Peter Biello: Wow. Thanks very much. Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. In fact, Pat Tate concedes that hes been told of sightings from folks that he considers to be very credible, very woods savvypeople who know what a bobcat looks likebut those folks have never snapped a good photo or found a good track. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. Now again I don't know that there's anything to that. Reports without physical evidence are not dismissed, however Fish and Game cannot verify a sighting report without physical evidence. And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. Peter Biello: We mentioned that the eastern cougar and the Western cougar are they were separate eastern cougar believed to be extinct. Here it is. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York.
Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year.