And it seems he gets clothes to dress the mannequins. Really appreciate the comment. I didnt think Maria Bello was good either. So the star on Det. Holly and her husband based their abductions off of the book. I just noticed something interesting. Explore holly jones's 396 photos on Flickr! Just my two cents. In addition to her legislative duties, Jones works as the Business Manager for Renz Law LLC. one question. Alex might have just been referring to Hollys husband who did go missing and who Holly and Alex were both wondering if hed ever come back. LONG VERSION: Holly and her husband were religious zealots until their young son died of cancer. Brilliant article, enjoyed every word of it. In the characters of Taylor & Alex, I agree with your accurate explanations that they are unable to speak & frozen by cognitive dissonance & being unable to speak of something as cosmicaly horrific as being abducted & what follows. To put it another way, not only are they unable to speak, but they speak in a completely different language. Why didnt Alex confess to the police or Keller? Brilliant analysis. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/733092911. It happens to be near the Birch house, where the Dovers celebrate Thanksgiving. Inmate Search. Another thing is the significance of showing the prepper mindset and taking everything in his own hand and his general lack of trust in higher authorities including police and perhaps even more broadly God, and how that changed when he was in the most helpless situation in what he prepared nothing for, and yet found that red whistle which will save his life. Hi. Im not sure about that detail. And staring the person down is kind of a legitimate tactic. His aunt also says that he just wanted to play and thats why he took the girls. We saw him hurt the dog. Great analysis!! Some people may follow the clues and put 2 and 2 together. That says a lot about his mental state, the degree of Stockholm Syndrome hes experiencing. They said specifically that the DNA and dental records came back with no match. Its a German version of cellar. Meaning basement, store room. Alex may have become too attached to Holly and the only home he had known for many years. Keller Dover wiederum fhrt zu Holly Jones, da er den Verdacht hat, dass Joy dort seine Stimme gehrt haben knnte. Eloquently posited Jeff, this certainly fits into the message and subsequent explanation for me. On Friday, Briere was charged with abducting, murdering and dismembering 10-year-old Holly Jones (shown), some of whose body parts were found May 13 in two pieces of luggage in water in two . Whatever segment of their brain that allowed them to not think about his disappearance their entire living day cannot ever be altered or returned. Maybe out of fear? I also dont think the weapon was visible. When I think of mazes, I think of complications. Or, if it was still his parents, quite surprised! But he was released in 1995 after serving less than three years of his sentence. How could the FBI agent wrote a book about the murderer and even have a maze picture in it if: a. no children was ever found (alive or not); b. the murderer was never found. She clearly loved her son so much since his death broke her sanity and stripped her of any morals. Weve already discussed the importance of trees in pagan religions. Holly Jones disappeared from her west-end Toronto neighbourhood in 2003, raped and murdered by Michael Briere. No way you find 10 people to give a guilty verdict let alone one when US laws would allow the defense to basically go over every missing kid in the area for the past 20+ years. Remember, he was over at the house one time and talks with Holly. In Joys flashback theres a note saying to complete all the mazes in the book. She was murdered by Michael Briere who plead guilty to first degree murder and got life in prison with no parole for 25years. Wow, I suppose Im late to the party because I only just watched it on Netflix. But IMO the explanations for Taylors weird actions do not hold together upon close scrutiny. But the same casual way he decided to choke the dog, he probably decided to bring the girls back to Holly. Which would therefore create a maze of the mind and memories. If Keller could figure it out, it was just a matter of time before Loki did too. But giving the audience clues that Keller is facing lengthy prison and Alex is going home Well it is quite the opposite in reality. Hi Chris, thank you. Lets get some answers. Or the DA who brought the charges would lose their next election lol. Loki the trickster would be best able to figure out a maze (tricks) that bad people do/commit. But the CSI experts would surely have noticed if the van had been cleaned very recently, and that small detail would have been suspicious as well. The main villain is in a war against the Christian God, while the hero is named after a god of Norse mythology. I also have a question. When Loki finds the body in the priests basement, the priest/father explains the man came to confess and spoke proudly about killing 16 children. I cant remember if he was listed above in the list of prisoners now but I was thinking Kellers Son Ralph is a prisoner too. Just some observations. Alex spends most nights sleeping in the RV and does not have many things. What is the connection between the snakes and girls clothes as well as the gaze in the boxes of the home of Taylor. When hes in police custody, the police demand to know where the abducted girls are and Taylor spends 3 hours drawing a maze to show them. She has documented her whole story in a book named "Holly's Hell - My Long Journey Home" with the hopes of one day sharing it with others. Doesnt know what happened to him. The Central Mississippi Correctional Facility (CMCF) was established in 1986 and built on 171 acres in Pearl in Rankin County. document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. She brings him to a hole underneath a car, forcing him in, shooting him in the leg and leaving him there. Im also a bit confused about it. Excellent review, I enjoyed reading the things I understood, as well as the details I missed out on. Years of possible uncontrolled druggingwould lead to antisocial behavior. I noticed how Holly cares for her dog and I wonder if Alex abusing it is his way of getting back at her (His abuser). It made me wonder if he also was carrying around some past trauma. He clearly remembers something about his life before the abduction, otherwise he wouldnt park at his old house. That would explain why Loki was driving so recklessly to the hospital. Why couldnt Loki identify the dead body as that of Hollys husband? Another similar piece of the puzzle which is teased to us In addition to this part of her routine was the large bottles of mysterious drink; addressed when keller is held at gunpoint and made to drink a third of the bottle. With all the opportunity to gush to the police about what happenedhe stays silent. Yeah, I like the mixture of Christian and Norse. There are a ton of changes that could be made to make this subplot more efficient and straightforward. State Representative Holly Jones, a Republican, represents part of St. Louis County (District 88) in the Missouri House of Representatives. He was a fundamentalist, right? She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also playedSally in Oblivion. This would explain why Alex was not able to drive the van. Holly bedroht ihn jedoch mit einer Waffe und sperrt ihn in ein unterirdisches Loch . document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); We hate bad email too, so we dont send it or share your email with anyone. Keller needs someone to find him and pull him out of that pit, but he also needs that whistle thats only down there because his daughter was down there because she got kidnapped looking for it, though he gave it to her for her rescue so many months or years ago. director of photography (as Roger A. Deakins) Film Editing by Casting By Take revenge on God for killing her son by kidnapping other people's children, Kang the Conqueror (Marvel Cinematic Universe). This is the man who saved Anna, and Anna doesnt say a word to him, despite being prompted by her mom. Alex is taken into custody, but is quickly released due to his IQ being the same as a ten year old. So he definitely has a cruel streak. Which led to Kellers survival mindset. Something like that. Is arrested as the prime suspect. Doesnt every house have duct tape in it? We expect psychos to have weird obsessions like mazes. Its always really nice to have that experience where you grow into appreciating a movie. He would not have known where to find the stuff. Thanks for the excellent analysis. Funny enough, Dover Historian mentions in Turkey the word means to beat or hit a person. Keller Dover definitely did a lot of dovering in Prisoners.). Blowing a whistle in order to be heard, and thus saved from dying in the hole, is the equivalent of being saved by the bell from being buried alive. SCDC offers the Internet "inmate search" feature and the toll free inmate information line, 1-866-727-2846, as a public service to interested citizens. Keller had been at the house. Hi Chris and everyone who has commented. The kidnapping stunted both young men. Its too easy to say Oh, well, they were completely messed up because of their own abductions when they were kids! And as you said yourself the whole plot development depends a bit too much on the fact that neither Alex nor Taylor are willing to talk about their experiences. Alex knows where the children are, but if he wants his Aunt in jail, and therefore stopped for good, he cant tellso its complicated. But theres a common association with a snake eating its own tail, also known as the Ouroboros. Thats usually associated with the idea of the endless loop. I prefer to believe Keller was found by Loki, his boss said he never lost a case. To be fair, the idea that the clothes may have been stolen is actually never mentioned in the movie. Let me know if you have thoughts. I wish they delved more into that aspect of him, but also thought that the brief mention left viewers trying to figure out its meaning. Also, are we sure Holly is not in the van as well? If someone would have put 2 and 2 together they could have solved it way sooner. Meaning its on the viewer to actively complete the few missing pieces of the puzzle. Why does that trigger a flashback where she thinks he was there? Why didnt Loki look into it more? If the dogs came by at all. A god who complicates things for other gods. So yes, the maze stuff in Prisoners is part of the basic plot. | I almost enjoyed this analysis more than the movie. Yo Zach! Thanks for your reply, Chris! No one ever says out loud, THAT WAS HER HUSBAND! They could have. Three things that we see come up again and again throughout the film. Im only 13 minutes in right now, but it is interesting! Before you trash this post, and think Im a nut case, please view the first 5 minuets of my video. The answer to this question isnt actually explained, but it is shown. Which really is a question for us. Bridger is serving a full . I believe the drug Holly was injecting into Anna was ketamine. and if so, I guess its just coincidence that Hollys husband had a maze around his neck and that they left mazes in the locked room? Holly Jones (Prisoners) Keller Dover; Please check the notes for additional warnings! That would have cinched the mystery early on. Theres an extreme cognitive dissonance that Franklin struggles with. Thank you for explaining this! Holly likely assumed that Joy had been able to provide enough information to reveal her location. And the girl had been drugged. It could also explain that Alex could not respond until days into his captivity, finally giving him a break in this regular prescription as he regained a scrap of his ability to think. Instead, it gives you a pile of puzzle pieces. Alex is in a similar situation. You want that for her? And now he kind of re-creates this moment. Good people do bad things, bad people do good thingsThe wicked knowingly and methodically try to spread their wickedness to as many as they can. Just one question: how come the parents recognised their daughters clothes at the police station but didnt realise that they were not the ones the girls wore when they disappeared? Thus, we know how long he was there. The captor is seen in one of the last scenes attempting to inject the child with a drug most likely heroin or morphine as Grace is seen frothing at the mouth as she is driven to the hospital by Loki. The rest are just kind ofdoing their part? Dogs: Holly said initially that she kept the girls in the hole while the police were around. Actually, now that I think about it, it is possible that Holly was in fact trying to kill Anna by administering a lethal dose of opiates in that scene, since she would have realized by that point that she was at high risk of being caught by other parties. Norse mythologys climax is Ragnarok, where gods fight giants and everyone dies. Almost a hundred years later, it can be pretty seamless. Does Loki discover Keller in the hole or not? He was parked outside of his old house in the camper when the girls came by and got in the camper with him. But keep up the good work! Due to a law passed in 1997, we also confine offenders who have been convicted of a felony in the District of Columbia. The body had been decomposing for a number of years. Now if Nocturnal Animals didnt have flashbacks, if we only saw Adams read this book and get emotional but otherwise live her life normallythat wouldnt work. And yes, it also reinforces the theme of imprisonment, because a maze can be, after all, a prison and almost every character in Prisoners is working through some kind of maze (physical, emotional, psychological, or spiritual). Lokis neck is a badgeso along with your hypothesishis god is justice/prison. I can see him being pretty off-grid. It seems accusatory at first mostly because its confusing. Kill Loki and any other interfering witnesses (failed). And the hidden basement with the hole in the ground. Except there was no Alex. Awesome article Chris and I love that youre still replying to people after all this time! And Loki in his own inclinations and deductions. Alex couldnt do anything to Loki, but when Keller comes barging in and grabs AlexAlex could hurt Keller. He writes about complex movie endings, narrative construction, and how movies connect to the psychology of our day to day lives. What did you think about the performances? This means the Dovers and Birches have to place their faith ina character named after a Norse God. He responds by shooting her in the head, killing the kidnapper for good. She is also the VP of Wellness Development for . Appreciate the kind words! Yell from a distance to freeze: So you can say you said it. I think, for him, hes just been unable to escape the trauma. This is part of the maze-like construction of Prisoners. Snakes are the tempter on the Bible? So you could try and argue that it just means the girls didnt struggle. Though she is not suspected by the police, Alex is, as the girls were seen playing around his RV before the capture. Were really only within 24 hours of all the information coming out. Alex/Barry's caretaker The pause on Netflix is infuriating. Youd worry that hed maybe keep trying to do take kids. The central story of Prisoners revolves around the investigation of two missing girls, Anna and Joy, led by Detective Loki. Was that really Keller or was that someone else, and was she confused because of all the drugs she used bc of Holy. Be really hard to find. What was up with the nervous twitch? But his instinct, thoroughness, and curiosity get the better of him. Police lay murder charge in Holly Jones case. I think the film supports it by not having Bob Taylor or the girls talk either. This piece is wonderful contextualises and puts in words what the movie does not so Thank you bc I enjoyed the read v much. By visiting his former home, he must remember a time before he was entrapped! I watched it a few years later and now 2021, the movie was on my Netflix suggestions pool, I was half in for watching it and I didnt.. woke up today and first thing was to figure out the story. Holly Jones And the long-dead Mr. Jones with the still-alive Keller Dover. The disappearance of Holly Jones Holly left home at 6:00 PM while it was still daylight, but as the darkness grew, her parents, Maria Jones and George Stonehouse, became concerned. And later, Alex tells Keller They didnt cry until I left them (more on that in the next section). And seems to have no one to talk to about what happened. But so many people missed this concept that Kendrick actually released a special edition of the album that was reverse chronological order. Other than that, enjoy Villains Wiki!!! And Loki was the catalyst in Taylor committing suicide. Prisoners is about spirituality and the complicated nature we have with spirituality. Not sure though) and it came out before Holly and her husband started the abductions. The article mentions that his co-worker Mr Dover didnt make any comments. Rewatched the movie while reading this and you really nailed it. And others will have a more cynical outlook that hes become who hes become and is kind of terrifying. The profound trauma capable of changing the intrinsic nature of a person, their beliefs, their language. In Pennsylvania, Keller Dover, his wife Grace, son Ralph, and daughter Anna celebrate Thanksgiving with their friends Franklin and Nancy Birch, and their dau. Splashing pigs blood on childrens clothes he then locks in boxes with snakes. I am from a complex family, nothing like what the film portrays but still some issues and I thank my last lucky star, Thats cool, thats interesting. Prisoners is a 2013 American thriller film directed by Denis Villeneuve from a screenplay written by Aaron Guzikowski. I was confused when Alex said that he was waiting for a man to come back and he never did. If he was, then he wouldnt have continuously lied to the police and Keller. I am impressed by how you have dissected each and every detail down to the meaning of the characters names. At their first encounter, in the parking lot of the police station, Alex toys with Keller, much like he did the dog, by saying, They didnt cry until I left them. He knew what he was doing. Hardcover. Buddy Holly was a singer songwriter from Lubbock Texas who died after a short 18 month career. These factors lead me to believe that the two girls, especially Anna, are potential abusers-to-be, because of their limited speech, the abuse they suffered, and the nature of inevitable violence in the cyclical maze, where abuse encourages more abuse. Perhaps another theme of the movie is communication. I stumbled upon this essay and now cant wait to watch again. I thought this was the whole reason behind Keller being obsessed with preparing for the worst, that his dad had been facing something he was unable to cope with and killed himself as his only way out of that situation. There was a for sale sign on it so Loki looked it up in case the owners knew anything and found a newspaper clipping that a little boy that used to live there had been kidnapped. The priest trapping Mr. Jones in the basement to die. Debord and Van Christopher Havis were arrested in . What didnt make sense to me was that the parents didnt seem to remember what the girls were wearing at the time of the abduction. In the Bible the snake is definitely associated with temptation. My question is when Loki found Keller tortureing Alex, why wasnt he taken to the police station? Makes sense that he would have gotten this name from Holly and her husband. Thanks. Biography Once a loving and religious woman, both Holly and her husband's minds soon took a twisted turn when their son died of cancer. Rest In Peace Holly. my city inspector wasatch county; latch board of directors; most annoying sound in the world hippo; quebec flood zone map 2019; the villa restaurant bishops stortford menu; holly jones prisoners. When we were shooting, we did shoot a version where it goes a little beyond where the fade out is. Crimes Prisoners Alex invited them into the van. Alex Jones also refers to a maze. And on his neck, a star that probably represents some other non-Christian religion. Damn, its such a good movie. They are thinking about him, his lost life, and the lives of all the kids (two right down the street) that he devastated. I dont think its entirely unrealistic. There you have it. How? . Powers / Skills You know hes going to be taken out of the hole. Federal Inmates. They dont expect someone to break into their house and take clothing. Theres an FBI book about a serial abductor who was obsessed with mazes. I dont think theres a definitive answer. Ralph tries to protest and is silenced by an outburst from Keller. | Prisoners, like Inception, ends on a cliffhanger. Also could represent David and Goliath and figuring out the maze was a Goliath task. Adding to that, Holly probably never reported him missing (wouldnt have wanted police poking around her place), so his name wouldnt have come up when the detectives were checking past missing persons cases for a man who disappeared 5 years previously. And they may not have had anything to go on. Your movie analysis is very very great. Also, I wanted to add that it is mentioned that Alex had an accident with the snakes. Tormenting those families we have Holly Jones. For example, he doesnt say a word when introduced to Joys mother and she hands him photographs of her daughter. Thats Bob Taylor, one of the many children Holly and her husband had abducted. Political party: Democrat. Because its complicated. The screenwriter, Aaron Guzikowski, did an interview with Buzzfeed and just straight up said: Oddly enough, thats how it was in the script when it was bought. Her back was turned to him. Alex is perfectly able to taunt with a cryptic, They didnt start crying till I left. He can drive, he can play with the girls, learn and sing their song, has the wherewithal to take them back to be tortured and killed, but is too traumatized by his past to say anything else? I loved a lot of the explanations here, hit the nail on the head. That unmerited favor that we cannot predict or control. I always wondered why Alex was just sitting there in his RV. Maybe the newspaper article was premature (but then why show it)? A month? Theyre kind of like ghost characters, director Denis Villeneuve said of the recurring motif of trees in the film; as we said earlier, like silent witnesses to the various violent crimes in the movie. Mini Major Victory At Olympia '08 For Ellen Whitaker & Holly Jones. But how in the world would a jury ever find this guy guilty of anything when he saves two kids, finds/stops the biggest kidnapping ring in the country, after the police basically screwed up bad. The van is clean, but the forensic guy does say that if there was a struggle they would have found some fibers. This explanation also doesnt hold together. Which could explain why there are no fingerprints in the van. Keeping the source of these character names in mind, if you re-watch Prisoners you definitely pick up on some thematic subtext involving religion. Commenting on the arrest, Police Chief Julian Fantino made an angry plea to government to set up a DNA bank for all software developers. Thats pretty fascinating. Her character is the embodiment of the spiritual crisis the Joneses hope to enact. Villeneueve even discussed trees in an interview with Indiewire. Lokis fellow officer brought it up that the Invisible Man used an LSD/ketamine cocktail on the victims, as described by that book. Jones, as a last name, means son of John. And John, as a name, means God is gracious. The irony here is that Hollys child died. The list of things that Buddy did before anyone else is long. Holly and her husband, who used to be fundamentalist believers, might have practised snake-handling as part of their faith and would have kept snakes for that purpose. So we have two very Christian characters in Keller and Grace who are dependent on Loki, a character symbolizing non-Christian religions. By that, I mean Alex has headed towards introversion. Thank you so much! You did an amazing job! Man, I didnt even think about the carpenter thing. Thanks. Cheers, Armed with a hidden gun, Keller heads to see Holly, but she soon learns he knows she kidnapped the girls and prepares her own revolver, which she aims at him upon arrival without hesitation once he voices he knows the truth. Instead, it leaves a few context clues there for us to piece things together. Holly Jones Community Partnership & Outreach Coordinator at North Carolina Department of Justice Asheville, North Carolina, United States 3K followers 500+ connections Join to connect North. Chris, you have written a very good essay, and most of your explanations are sound and thoughtful. Alex Jones is Paul Sandow's older brother; Crimes & Criminals; Canon-Typical Violence; Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault; Alex Is A Good Brother; Alex & Loki have an unlikely partnership . I assumed that it was Bob and he was referring to when he was captured by the police in the van at the rest stop. 69K views 2 years ago In Pennsylvania, Keller Dover, his wife Grace, son Ralph, and daughter Anna celebrate Thanksgiving with their friends Franklin and Nancy Birch, and their daughters Eliza and. about what happened to these girls and you DONT TELL US, YOUR AUNT WILL GO TO JAIL too. Him being so a-type with all that stuff means he has his daughter carry that whistle, and its the whistle that he uses at the end to signal Loki. But, at this point, you know better than to think its coincidence, right? Look Up An Inmate Johnston County NC Jail. The girl saw him or heard him though he didnt see the girl. Yet, psychologically, neither can. After this all goes down a lot of parents get closure, the two families go home and deal with court stuff, but this family has a living ghost that haunts them 24/7. Whats it mean that Keller prays to God to save him from the hole and its Loki whos there? What a coincidence that Joys last name is Birch (a very common tree in America). And that ignited in her a hatred of God. Possible, but as a main oremise it seems a bit thin. Uploaded: She feels God is anything but gracious. Demonstrated history of leadership in Human Resources Strategy, Employee Relations . Barely existing. As for Keller going to prison I mean we would need modern examples of this type of situation. Its complicated and not effective. While SCDC strives to ensure accuracy of this information, it makes no guarantees as to the reliability of the data. Is it the content of the game? The highly anticipated conclusion to the Stolen Heir duology by #1 New York Times bestselling author Holly Black. Near the end of the movie, Holly Jones is explaining that Alex was the first boy they took after their son died, and that his name hadnt been Alex that it had been Jimmy. And part of Taylors thing is recreating the maze. We see how he buries the mannequin in his yard. She has no problem with killing or torturing, even children as per her M.O., and seems to embrace this side of her. I have made a discovery of hidden symbols in movies. Especially on re-watches. Joy and Anna leave the Birchs to find Annas missing whistle. When I say faith in the police, keep in mind that Loki is the detective. When Loki went around talking to the birches neighbours one was Alexs mom and she described how her son was also abducted one day when the van was parked outside her house. When Loki brings Taylor in, Taylor cant just explain what happened and why. Though Keller was having a most difficult time thinking and behaving Christian or Christ-like, their never was a scene where he cursed God or threw away his cross. Alex, nostalgic about his own childhood, tries to play with the girls in the RV.
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